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	<title>Comments on: On Self-Promotion</title>
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		<title>By: Laur</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/book-promotion/on-self-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-3613</link>
		<dc:creator>Laur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read Little Brother (which I recommend), and I read BoingBoing from an RSS feed, and what I can attest is that, while there were a lot of Little Brother related posts, not all of them were of the &quot;buyitnow&quot; persuasion. The gadgets and tech used by Cory in the book got their very own Instructables section, and all of them popped on BB, because it&#039;s tech and gadgety and cool and Cory used them in his book, so what better topics were there? Besides, it&#039;s not like anyone is _making_ you read this stuff, I can skip things that don&#039;t interest me at the touch of a button, which is what most of you can surely do as well. 

On the other hand, his books are available online for free, so it&#039;s your time he&#039;s asking for, not (necessarily) your money. Although in my case he definitely ended up with both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Little Brother (which I recommend), and I read BoingBoing from an RSS feed, and what I can attest is that, while there were a lot of Little Brother related posts, not all of them were of the &#8220;buyitnow&#8221; persuasion. The gadgets and tech used by Cory in the book got their very own Instructables section, and all of them popped on BB, because it&#8217;s tech and gadgety and cool and Cory used them in his book, so what better topics were there? Besides, it&#8217;s not like anyone is _making_ you read this stuff, I can skip things that don&#8217;t interest me at the touch of a button, which is what most of you can surely do as well. </p>
<p>On the other hand, his books are available online for free, so it&#8217;s your time he&#8217;s asking for, not (necessarily) your money. Although in my case he definitely ended up with both.</p>
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		<title>By: King Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with the placement of Cory Doctorow&#039;s promotional material/advertisements.  I might have a problem with his frequency however.  (I don&#039;t, because I don&#039;t read BoingBoing, though.) Even then I wouldn&#039;t have a moral problem with it.  I might object because it reduces the signal to noise ratio for my reading.  If anything get&#039;s too repetitive and frequent, I may drop it.  Depends on how much useful information there is to me.  Doctorow&#039;s use of his megaphone too often in that way will drive off readers.

The local Seattle Times recently did something with their RSS feeds where every time they make a minor change to a story, it shows as a new item.  So I saw many stories 3 or 4 times a day, with no utility for me at the margin (to use a set of terms pushed by Tyler Cowen).  This is, I believe, what the commenters at BoingBoing have a problem with.  There&#039;s no utility for them to see postings about readings they won&#039;t be able to attend, or the 23rd interview of the week which is the same information but a different order as the previous 22 interviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with the placement of Cory Doctorow&#8217;s promotional material/advertisements.  I might have a problem with his frequency however.  (I don&#8217;t, because I don&#8217;t read BoingBoing, though.) Even then I wouldn&#8217;t have a moral problem with it.  I might object because it reduces the signal to noise ratio for my reading.  If anything get&#8217;s too repetitive and frequent, I may drop it.  Depends on how much useful information there is to me.  Doctorow&#8217;s use of his megaphone too often in that way will drive off readers.</p>
<p>The local Seattle Times recently did something with their RSS feeds where every time they make a minor change to a story, it shows as a new item.  So I saw many stories 3 or 4 times a day, with no utility for me at the margin (to use a set of terms pushed by Tyler Cowen).  This is, I believe, what the commenters at BoingBoing have a problem with.  There&#8217;s no utility for them to see postings about readings they won&#8217;t be able to attend, or the 23rd interview of the week which is the same information but a different order as the previous 22 interviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing - I don&#039;t feel that YOU are a skeevy car salesman. There is a right way to do this, and you are a good example of doing it right. Which is why I subscribe to your blog, and not Doctorow&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing &#8211; I don&#8217;t feel that YOU are a skeevy car salesman. There is a right way to do this, and you are a good example of doing it right. Which is why I subscribe to your blog, and not Doctorow&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Nolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Nolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - 

Your points about the death of traditional marketing are right on. No problem there. But I have to say that the very in-your-faceness of Doctorow has really turned me off. The impression I get, right or wrong, is that here is a guy who is all about using the system. He knows how to play the game. Good for him. Does it make me want to read his work? No. I don&#039;t like to feel manipulated, and so the result is I&#039;ve formed a very negative impression of him. Like a skeevy car salesman. 

Is this because he&#039;s a writer, and writers shouldn&#039;t behave like this? Perhaps. We hold writers up to a higher standard. They&#039;re up there with doctors and classical musicians. We don&#039;t expect such folks to be out there hawking their wares. It lowers our opinion of them. 

I realize that that perception hampers your ability to earn a living, but people do think that way. This could explain at least some of the virulent postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; </p>
<p>Your points about the death of traditional marketing are right on. No problem there. But I have to say that the very in-your-faceness of Doctorow has really turned me off. The impression I get, right or wrong, is that here is a guy who is all about using the system. He knows how to play the game. Good for him. Does it make me want to read his work? No. I don&#8217;t like to feel manipulated, and so the result is I&#8217;ve formed a very negative impression of him. Like a skeevy car salesman. </p>
<p>Is this because he&#8217;s a writer, and writers shouldn&#8217;t behave like this? Perhaps. We hold writers up to a higher standard. They&#8217;re up there with doctors and classical musicians. We don&#8217;t expect such folks to be out there hawking their wares. It lowers our opinion of them. </p>
<p>I realize that that perception hampers your ability to earn a living, but people do think that way. This could explain at least some of the virulent postings.</p>
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