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		<title>Comment on Plunderers of Dune by SandChigger</title>
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		<dc:creator>SandChigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick?</description>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate: Since you're reviewing &lt;em&gt;Infoquake&lt;/em&gt;, keep in mind that #9 is really just a guideline. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate: Since you&#8217;re reviewing <em>Infoquake</em>, keep in mind that #9 is really just a guideline. <img src='http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by N Trachta</title>
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		<dc:creator>N Trachta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Looks like Infoquake is going thru a nice resurgence for you.  I too picked it up and plan to read it on on my vacation next week with a review to follow.  Hopefully my review will meet your definitions.  

Have a good one!

Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Looks like Infoquake is going thru a nice resurgence for you.  I too picked it up and plan to read it on on my vacation next week with a review to follow.  Hopefully my review will meet your definitions.  </p>
<p>Have a good one!</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, succinct tidbits. Your writing style exposes your fearlessness in life. Love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, succinct tidbits. Your writing style exposes your fearlessness in life. Love it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Daryl. That James Morrow is a smart guy. (And Walker Percy too, of course.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Daryl. That James Morrow is a smart guy. (And Walker Percy too, of course.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by Daryl Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, this puts me in mind of an article in the Jan 2008 issue of NYRSF. James Morrow quoted novelist Walker Percy on the four kinds of book reviews (all quotes are from Percy): 
The good good review ("laudatory, but is also canny and on the mark"), the bad good review ("the routine 'favorable' review that doesn't understand the book"), the bad bad review ("a hateful review in which the reviewer hates the book for reasons he is unwilling to disclose"), and the good bad review (a "rare bird" that is "the critical review that accurately assesses both what the novelist had in mind, what he was trying to do, and how and where he failed.") It's the good bad review, Percy says, that is most useful to the author, "if one were in any shape to learn, which one is not." Too true. 

(Morrow goes on to take this 4-part taxonomy and apply it to the kinds of trouble a writer can get into while trying to write a book. I won't get into that here, but it's brilliant. )

Your 10 points are like a recipe for making a good good review or a good bad review.

--d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, this puts me in mind of an article in the Jan 2008 issue of NYRSF. James Morrow quoted novelist Walker Percy on the four kinds of book reviews (all quotes are from Percy):<br />
The good good review (&#8221;laudatory, but is also canny and on the mark&#8221;), the bad good review (&#8221;the routine &#8216;favorable&#8217; review that doesn&#8217;t understand the book&#8221;), the bad bad review (&#8221;a hateful review in which the reviewer hates the book for reasons he is unwilling to disclose&#8221;), and the good bad review (a &#8220;rare bird&#8221; that is &#8220;the critical review that accurately assesses both what the novelist had in mind, what he was trying to do, and how and where he failed.&#8221;) It&#8217;s the good bad review, Percy says, that is most useful to the author, &#8220;if one were in any shape to learn, which one is not.&#8221; Too true. </p>
<p>(Morrow goes on to take this 4-part taxonomy and apply it to the kinds of trouble a writer can get into while trying to write a book. I won&#8217;t get into that here, but it&#8217;s brilliant. )</p>
<p>Your 10 points are like a recipe for making a good good review or a good bad review.</p>
<p>&#8211;d</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by NextRead &#187; Link: What Do Authors Want from Reviewers?</title>
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		<dc:creator>NextRead &#187; Link: What Do Authors Want from Reviewers?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by gav (nextread)</title>
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		<dc:creator>gav (nextread)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's nice to see things from the other side of the fence. 

I'm having a bit of a debate about myself at the moment. The way I read reviews is skip the boring analyse and get to the end to find out if they liked it or not.  And they I might go back and find out a bit more but not too much more as I want reviews to be teasers, tasters, to entice me to read them but not actually tell me too much. 

But then a review has to be more than a promo and dip into the strengths and weaknesses of the book but then how far to you take praise and criticism. Will it actually help someone pick up the book if they don't really know what you are talking about? Then again do you loose credibility as a reviewer if you don't try and get fast the surface and show off the blood and guts in the middle?

Then there is the whole scoring thing that goes back to making it easy for someone to judge if you liked it and by how much. It's all relative though as I tend to always try and judge a book against itself rather than compare it to any others unless it's a pale imitation of something and doesn't stand on it's own. 

I've been hearing a lot about Infoquake and I'm glad to see Solaris pick it up in the UK. I'm going to see if I get a copy :D

Thanks for the food for thought.

Gav.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see things from the other side of the fence. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m having a bit of a debate about myself at the moment. The way I read reviews is skip the boring analyse and get to the end to find out if they liked it or not.  And they I might go back and find out a bit more but not too much more as I want reviews to be teasers, tasters, to entice me to read them but not actually tell me too much. </p>
<p>But then a review has to be more than a promo and dip into the strengths and weaknesses of the book but then how far to you take praise and criticism. Will it actually help someone pick up the book if they don&#8217;t really know what you are talking about? Then again do you loose credibility as a reviewer if you don&#8217;t try and get fast the surface and show off the blood and guts in the middle?</p>
<p>Then there is the whole scoring thing that goes back to making it easy for someone to judge if you liked it and by how much. It&#8217;s all relative though as I tend to always try and judge a book against itself rather than compare it to any others unless it&#8217;s a pale imitation of something and doesn&#8217;t stand on it&#8217;s own. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been hearing a lot about Infoquake and I&#8217;m glad to see Solaris pick it up in the UK. I&#8217;m going to see if I get a copy <img src='http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the food for thought.</p>
<p>Gav.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aidan: On reviewing novels you couldn't finish... I wouldn't say it's completely verboten. Of course, you need full disclosure of that fact, preferably upfront. Which you did in the review you mention.

Having skimmed through the review and the controversy, I was all set to think Paul Kearney a thin-skinned twit for his remark... and then I read his follow-up comment saying "I regret my earlier comment, and please don't think I'm a thin-skinned twit." He makes some good points. If you're just some guy writing off-the-cuff opinions, you can read and review any portion of the book you want. But if you bill yourself as a "book review site" or a "book review blog," well, there is some obligation there to follow through. Except, of course, when you make a rare exception.

Honestly, I thought you were more than fair to the book, and had plenty of blurbworthy things to say about it. Your negative review actually made the book sound quite interesting to me, and I'm now inclined to go track down a copy.

And finally, like one of your commenters, I couldn't finish &lt;em&gt;Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell&lt;/em&gt; either. I put it down somewhere around page 32,523, when I realized that the author had yet to include a single description of spellcasting, despite the fact that her characters were doing it on almost every page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aidan: On reviewing novels you couldn&#8217;t finish&#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s completely verboten. Of course, you need full disclosure of that fact, preferably upfront. Which you did in the review you mention.</p>
<p>Having skimmed through the review and the controversy, I was all set to think Paul Kearney a thin-skinned twit for his remark&#8230; and then I read his follow-up comment saying &#8220;I regret my earlier comment, and please don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m a thin-skinned twit.&#8221; He makes some good points. If you&#8217;re just some guy writing off-the-cuff opinions, you can read and review any portion of the book you want. But if you bill yourself as a &#8220;book review site&#8221; or a &#8220;book review blog,&#8221; well, there is some obligation there to follow through. Except, of course, when you make a rare exception.</p>
<p>Honestly, I thought you were more than fair to the book, and had plenty of blurbworthy things to say about it. Your negative review actually made the book sound quite interesting to me, and I&#8217;m now inclined to go track down a copy.</p>
<p>And finally, like one of your commenters, I couldn&#8217;t finish <em>Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell</em> either. I put it down somewhere around page 32,523, when I realized that the author had yet to include a single description of spellcasting, despite the fact that her characters were doing it on almost every page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do Authors Want from Reviewers? by Aidan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific article, David.

I'm going to start up &lt;strong&gt;Infoquake&lt;/strong&gt; next, and I'll certainly keep a lot of these thoughts in mind when it comes time to review it, whether I enjoy the novel or not.

One thing I'm curious about is your opinion on a reviewer writing a review of a novel they couldn't finish. I caused a bit of a stir with my review of Paul Kearney's &lt;strong&gt;The Ten Thousand&lt;/strong&gt; and then wrote about my experience &lt;a href="http://aidanmoher.com/blog/?p=219" rel="nofollow"&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt; and would be curious to hear your thoughts.

~Aidan
&lt;strong&gt;A Dribble of Ink&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific article, David.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to start up <strong>Infoquake</strong> next, and I&#8217;ll certainly keep a lot of these thoughts in mind when it comes time to review it, whether I enjoy the novel or not.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m curious about is your opinion on a reviewer writing a review of a novel they couldn&#8217;t finish. I caused a bit of a stir with my review of Paul Kearney&#8217;s <strong>The Ten Thousand</strong> and then wrote about my experience <a href="http://aidanmoher.com/blog/?p=219" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> and would be curious to hear your thoughts.</p>
<p>~Aidan<br />
<strong>A Dribble of Ink</strong></p>
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