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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/current-events/separation-of-powers/comment-page-1/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thanks for pointing that out.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re welcome.  Applying &#039;Lance&#039; to a rank indicates &#039;Lowest possible form of that rank&#039;.  The Marines have it (bias warning) because it is not unknown for an E-3 to be put in charge of leadership tasks that are nominally above their billet but due to personnel shortages you reach down and get the next guy in order of seniority or who looks like he&#039;s ready to take charge.  The Army would promote the guy or commission him.  The Marines give you the job and a medal if you do well.  It&#039;s cheaper that way.

It&#039;s a relatively new rank - it was brought into being (more bias ahead) after WW II when the services were adjusting to the whole Cold War thing.  The Army in a fit of the dumbs tried hard to forget their mission of killing people the old fashioned way and become more like the Air Force and created a whole raft of Specialist ranks (and did away with the rank &#039;Corporal&#039;) - the idea being that most soldiers were going to be Atomic-era technicians and not have to be so grubby as to dig fox holes.

Meanwhile the Marines (Semper Fi) prepared for the WW III missions no-body else wanted (Turkey, Norway) and brush-fire wars by preparing junior enlisted to step up and become leaders - creating the E-3 rank of &#039;Lance Corporal&#039; or &#039;junior NCO in training&#039;.

Which is probably more than you ever wanted to know - but I will run on.

Incidentally I had the &#039;honor&#039; of spending the majority of my eight years service as a Marine at that rank.  A stellar Mr. Marine kinda guy I was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thanks for pointing that out.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.  Applying &#8216;Lance&#8217; to a rank indicates &#8216;Lowest possible form of that rank&#8217;.  The Marines have it (bias warning) because it is not unknown for an E-3 to be put in charge of leadership tasks that are nominally above their billet but due to personnel shortages you reach down and get the next guy in order of seniority or who looks like he&#8217;s ready to take charge.  The Army would promote the guy or commission him.  The Marines give you the job and a medal if you do well.  It&#8217;s cheaper that way.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a relatively new rank &#8211; it was brought into being (more bias ahead) after WW II when the services were adjusting to the whole Cold War thing.  The Army in a fit of the dumbs tried hard to forget their mission of killing people the old fashioned way and become more like the Air Force and created a whole raft of Specialist ranks (and did away with the rank &#8216;Corporal&#8217;) &#8211; the idea being that most soldiers were going to be Atomic-era technicians and not have to be so grubby as to dig fox holes.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Marines (Semper Fi) prepared for the WW III missions no-body else wanted (Turkey, Norway) and brush-fire wars by preparing junior enlisted to step up and become leaders &#8211; creating the E-3 rank of &#8216;Lance Corporal&#8217; or &#8216;junior NCO in training&#8217;.</p>
<p>Which is probably more than you ever wanted to know &#8211; but I will run on.</p>
<p>Incidentally I had the &#8216;honor&#8217; of spending the majority of my eight years service as a Marine at that rank.  A stellar Mr. Marine kinda guy I was not.</p>
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		<title>By: David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Nitpick - Justin Sharratt is a Lance Corporal which is not the same thing as being a Corporal.&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks for pointing that out. I admit I didn&#039;t have the slightest idea what a Lance Corporal was, I just took it from the NewsMax article and shoulda figured it was a different rank than a Corporal. I&#039;ve fixed the error now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nitpick &#8211; Justin Sharratt is a Lance Corporal which is not the same thing as being a Corporal.</em></p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out. I admit I didn&#8217;t have the slightest idea what a Lance Corporal was, I just took it from the NewsMax article and shoulda figured it was a different rank than a Corporal. I&#8217;ve fixed the error now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/current-events/separation-of-powers/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The president of the United States cannot declare war. Only the Congress can do that.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with you, David.  Sure enough there is a lot of blame to go around - both parties, legislative and executive.

You give a pol an inch of power and they&#039;ll take a yard.  You can trust the government in at least that much.

Nitpick - Justin Sharratt is a Lance Corporal which is not the same thing as being a Corporal.   The former is E3 the latter is an E4 and NCO.  It makes a diff .. if only to Marines (grin).

&lt;i&gt;And he certainly won’t listen if they choose to defund the war.&lt;/i&gt;

We live in interesting times.  I wish they&#039;d at least try.  You can&#039;t claim to be elected on a mandate to end the war and then speechify and pass (for the sweet thorny headed love of God) non-binding resolutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The president of the United States cannot declare war. Only the Congress can do that.</i></p>
<p>I agree with you, David.  Sure enough there is a lot of blame to go around &#8211; both parties, legislative and executive.</p>
<p>You give a pol an inch of power and they&#8217;ll take a yard.  You can trust the government in at least that much.</p>
<p>Nitpick &#8211; Justin Sharratt is a Lance Corporal which is not the same thing as being a Corporal.   The former is E3 the latter is an E4 and NCO.  It makes a diff .. if only to Marines (grin).</p>
<p><i>And he certainly won’t listen if they choose to defund the war.</i></p>
<p>We live in interesting times.  I wish they&#8217;d at least try.  You can&#8217;t claim to be elected on a mandate to end the war and then speechify and pass (for the sweet thorny headed love of God) non-binding resolutions.</p>
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		<title>By: David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedRover: Sure, they authorized it -- but Bush would have gone in there with or without Congressional approval. And he certainly won&#039;t listen if they choose to defund the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedRover: Sure, they authorized it &#8212; but Bush would have gone in there with or without Congressional approval. And he certainly won&#8217;t listen if they choose to defund the war.</p>
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		<title>By: RedRover</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedRover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to forget that Congress authorized the war in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to forget that Congress authorized the war in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the idea of impeaching Bush, I can only offer two words: President Cheney.

Remember that back in the 70&#039;s, nobody seriously considered impeachment procedings against Nixon until &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; VP Spiro Agnew had resigned and been replaced by Gerald Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the idea of impeaching Bush, I can only offer two words: President Cheney.</p>
<p>Remember that back in the 70&#8242;s, nobody seriously considered impeachment procedings against Nixon until <em>after</em> VP Spiro Agnew had resigned and been replaced by Gerald Ford.</p>
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