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		<title>By: haiden</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-4354</link>
		<dc:creator>haiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood how socialism sounded good on paper...
It has always sounded like a horror story for me.
Equality is not always a good thing.
If I can't have my ambitions and create something that i have complete ownership and control over, then I'd freak.
Free Market Capitalism can't produce all powerful corporations unless the government says so (and even then, people can revolt), but then it would cease to be a free market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood how socialism sounded good on paper&#8230;<br />
It has always sounded like a horror story for me.<br />
Equality is not always a good thing.<br />
If I can&#8217;t have my ambitions and create something that i have complete ownership and control over, then I&#8217;d freak.<br />
Free Market Capitalism can&#8217;t produce all powerful corporations unless the government says so (and even then, people can revolt), but then it would cease to be a free market.</p>
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		<title>By: What the WordPress Needs Now (David Louis Edelman&#8217;s Blog)</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>What the WordPress Needs Now (David Louis Edelman&#8217;s Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] haven&#8217;t always been kind to open-source software (read exhibits A and B), but sometimes you&#8217;ve got to give credit where credit is due. WordPress &#8212; whose [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Penguicon 5.0 Wrapup (David Louis Edelman&#8217;s Blog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penguicon 5.0 Wrapup (David Louis Edelman&#8217;s Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] best of all, I got through most of the weekend without having to explain my ambivalent feelings about open source software and the fact that I run Windows Vista on my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nemoforone</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>nemoforone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the possibility of pulling out of Iraq, letting Iran invade and lose resources fighting their own kind,
and then come in and mop up the dregs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the possibility of pulling out of Iraq, letting Iran invade and lose resources fighting their own kind,<br />
and then come in and mop up the dregs?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry D</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assesment of Open Source David. I've developed in both worlds.

&lt;em&gt;Open source&lt;/em&gt; means different things to different people so any interpretation can be valid I guess.

From an &lt;em&gt;academic&lt;/em&gt; perspective, open source can be translated to mean the source code is open for review by anyone. People are free to use it as a learning tool for review, modification, etc... The only thing that matters in this case is the license it has been released under. In the best licenses, you are free to use the source code for whatever you wish - commercial or otherwise.

From a product perspective, open source can mean something different.

Users can take advantage of an application which is a free or low cost alternative to commercial applications (not that they are better). In addition, they can rely on the open source community for support and guidance if they are so inclined. Also, developers can use the open source application as the launching point for other applications - allowing them to focus on implementing their specific business requirements without dwelling on the mundane plumbing details. In this case, developers rely on the open source core to implement certain general features which save them the time of having to write the code themselves.

Having said all this, I completely agree with all the points you've made regarding the future of Open Source software. It will play an important part, but it will not play the biggest part in the role of software of the future... it will play aournd the periphery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assesment of Open Source David. I&#8217;ve developed in both worlds.</p>
<p><em>Open source</em> means different things to different people so any interpretation can be valid I guess.</p>
<p>From an <em>academic</em> perspective, open source can be translated to mean the source code is open for review by anyone. People are free to use it as a learning tool for review, modification, etc&#8230; The only thing that matters in this case is the license it has been released under. In the best licenses, you are free to use the source code for whatever you wish - commercial or otherwise.</p>
<p>From a product perspective, open source can mean something different.</p>
<p>Users can take advantage of an application which is a free or low cost alternative to commercial applications (not that they are better). In addition, they can rely on the open source community for support and guidance if they are so inclined. Also, developers can use the open source application as the launching point for other applications - allowing them to focus on implementing their specific business requirements without dwelling on the mundane plumbing details. In this case, developers rely on the open source core to implement certain general features which save them the time of having to write the code themselves.</p>
<p>Having said all this, I completely agree with all the points you&#8217;ve made regarding the future of Open Source software. It will play an important part, but it will not play the biggest part in the role of software of the future&#8230; it will play aournd the periphery.</p>
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		<title>By: David Louis Edelman</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points all, Aaron. Some quick responses to your responses:

1. True. I think there's a certain amount of subjectivity to any value judgment like this. My pet theory (though admittedly not one I've thought through) is that in the long run open source groups will tend to be "better" at small, niche products while proprietary groups will make better large, mass market products.

2. To me, the accountability is the key. If something goes wrong with your Red Hat installation, Red Hat can always shrug their shoulders and say "that's just Linux." Microsoft and Apple don't have anyone else to pass the blame to. (Okay, that's a simplification, but I think still generally true.)

3. I'll grant that the statement as I phrased it is somewhat misleading... but I still stand by the point. Although I do have to agree with you that USB and wireless support are pretty pathetic in Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points all, Aaron. Some quick responses to your responses:</p>
<p>1. True. I think there&#8217;s a certain amount of subjectivity to any value judgment like this. My pet theory (though admittedly not one I&#8217;ve thought through) is that in the long run open source groups will tend to be &#8220;better&#8221; at small, niche products while proprietary groups will make better large, mass market products.</p>
<p>2. To me, the accountability is the key. If something goes wrong with your Red Hat installation, Red Hat can always shrug their shoulders and say &#8220;that&#8217;s just Linux.&#8221; Microsoft and Apple don&#8217;t have anyone else to pass the blame to. (Okay, that&#8217;s a simplification, but I think still generally true.)</p>
<p>3. I&#8217;ll grant that the statement as I phrased it is somewhat misleading&#8230; but I still stand by the point. Although I do have to agree with you that USB and wireless support are pretty pathetic in Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me note, off the bat, that I am biased.  I, myself, am a linux developer, so take what i say with a grain of salt.

I want to add my responses to the bullet points above:

1) "Better" is subjective.  The reason most OSS projects in the lime-light are "comparable" to existing solutions is that people are scared of vastly new things.  You use IE? Here, try framebuffer links (-g)!  It's a great browser that runs in svga mode.  It's technically amazing.  Why does no one know about it? Because it's vastly different and won't run without a framebuffer (windows  gives you one framebuffer, which it already draws on).  There's many instances of this stuff.  Many things which are technically superior, but not widely known because the consumer market doesn't care about "technical details", they just want to click buttons.

2) This point is misleading.  The common creedo is "free as in speech, not as in beer".  Free software is not about cost.  There is no clause anywhere that says you can't charge money for Open Source software (i.e. Trolltech), it's just that you have to distribute the source, and some geek will be able to get it for free, regardless.  Hell, I've donated quite alot of money to open source projects I value, and as such, have "paid" for the just the same.

3) This statement is, again, misleading.  As software gets more complex, layers of abstraction are added.  This is the way it has been for the past 30 years, and the way it will continue to go.  I know for a fact that right now, USB support and wireless support are vastly superior under linux than windows.  Windows doesn't even support some of the advanced wireless encryption that has been proven much more secure. (WEP is broken and crack-able in around 20 minutes).
Saying "software is complex and linux can't keep up" is moot, as if the linux community cannot keep up, there's no way proprietary companies can keep up either (they have finite human resources).
With the comparisson of lines-of-code, you forget to mention that that linux source (just the kernel, mind you) supports a huge amoung of architectures, whereas windows only runs on x86 and x86_64, whereas Mac OSX runs on PPC and x86 (now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me note, off the bat, that I am biased.  I, myself, am a linux developer, so take what i say with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>I want to add my responses to the bullet points above:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Better&#8221; is subjective.  The reason most OSS projects in the lime-light are &#8220;comparable&#8221; to existing solutions is that people are scared of vastly new things.  You use IE? Here, try framebuffer links (-g)!  It&#8217;s a great browser that runs in svga mode.  It&#8217;s technically amazing.  Why does no one know about it? Because it&#8217;s vastly different and won&#8217;t run without a framebuffer (windows  gives you one framebuffer, which it already draws on).  There&#8217;s many instances of this stuff.  Many things which are technically superior, but not widely known because the consumer market doesn&#8217;t care about &#8220;technical details&#8221;, they just want to click buttons.</p>
<p>2) This point is misleading.  The common creedo is &#8220;free as in speech, not as in beer&#8221;.  Free software is not about cost.  There is no clause anywhere that says you can&#8217;t charge money for Open Source software (i.e. Trolltech), it&#8217;s just that you have to distribute the source, and some geek will be able to get it for free, regardless.  Hell, I&#8217;ve donated quite alot of money to open source projects I value, and as such, have &#8220;paid&#8221; for the just the same.</p>
<p>3) This statement is, again, misleading.  As software gets more complex, layers of abstraction are added.  This is the way it has been for the past 30 years, and the way it will continue to go.  I know for a fact that right now, USB support and wireless support are vastly superior under linux than windows.  Windows doesn&#8217;t even support some of the advanced wireless encryption that has been proven much more secure. (WEP is broken and crack-able in around 20 minutes).<br />
Saying &#8220;software is complex and linux can&#8217;t keep up&#8221; is moot, as if the linux community cannot keep up, there&#8217;s no way proprietary companies can keep up either (they have finite human resources).<br />
With the comparisson of lines-of-code, you forget to mention that that linux source (just the kernel, mind you) supports a huge amoung of architectures, whereas windows only runs on x86 and x86_64, whereas Mac OSX runs on PPC and x86 (now).</p>
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		<title>By: Thom Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/infoquake/open-source-software/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Communism - on paper, Utopia.  In practice - Cold War Russia.

You're a genius, Dave.  The Socialism comment is dead on.  Open source is a novel idea that may or may not catch on entirely.  If it does catch on, what we will have in the "final iteration (sp?)" will be a twisted, warped version of the ideas originally set forth.  I'm almost willing to put money on it.  Almost.

Just a quick thought: Let's pretend (ha ha ha) Microsoft went OPEN SOURCE (hey, you're a sci-fi writer...).  Every wanna be hacker will then have access to the original code with no resistance to develop protection-breakers against, etc.

God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communism - on paper, Utopia.  In practice - Cold War Russia.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a genius, Dave.  The Socialism comment is dead on.  Open source is a novel idea that may or may not catch on entirely.  If it does catch on, what we will have in the &#8220;final iteration (sp?)&#8221; will be a twisted, warped version of the ideas originally set forth.  I&#8217;m almost willing to put money on it.  Almost.</p>
<p>Just a quick thought: Let&#8217;s pretend (ha ha ha) Microsoft went OPEN SOURCE (hey, you&#8217;re a sci-fi writer&#8230;).  Every wanna be hacker will then have access to the original code with no resistance to develop protection-breakers against, etc.</p>
<p>God help us.</p>
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		<title>By: David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shhh... don't let China Mieville hear you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shhh&#8230; don&#8217;t let China Mieville hear you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Open source sounds like a great idea, in theory. But so does socialism. And while I'm not ready to throw in the towel on socialism either, let's just say that thus far it hasn't performed as well in the real world as it does in a laboratory setting.&lt;/em&gt;

Have I mentioned that I love you, Dave?  I have a 17 year old idealist going through his Marxist phase, and as much as I like to call myself a pragmatic socialist (which is almost certainly a contradiction in terms), I have to keep reminding him that theory and practice are two different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Open source sounds like a great idea, in theory. But so does socialism. And while I&#8217;m not ready to throw in the towel on socialism either, let&#8217;s just say that thus far it hasn&#8217;t performed as well in the real world as it does in a laboratory setting.</em></p>
<p>Have I mentioned that I love you, Dave?  I have a 17 year old idealist going through his Marxist phase, and as much as I like to call myself a pragmatic socialist (which is almost certainly a contradiction in terms), I have to keep reminding him that theory and practice are two different things.</p>
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