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		<title>By: Soni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, two more things -

1. Many book heroes tend to be of the &quot;action&quot; sort, the rebel youth, the gutter urchin or the ever-popular illiterate unsuspecting-peasant-who-transition-to-hero (translate this trope to your respective genre as needed - I&#039;m looking at you, young Mr. Skywalker) - not exactly bastions of literary devotion. For those who are more bastion-like, writers often go on about the hero possessing &quot;walls of books&quot; or &quot;piles of books&quot; or otherwise tipping a hat to the hero&#039;s literary prowess during their scene building, and from that one infers that these books (of whatever provenance and/or genre the reader wishes to ascribe to them) are read, not bought by the pound for decorative purposes.

2. Writing about someone reading a book, unless concretely tied into the plot, doesn&#039;t fall under the heading of &quot;stuff that moves the story along,&quot; and therefore is unlikely to be portrayed regardless of the likelihood that the hero reads simply because to do so would be boring and pointless (we don&#039;t see much about them going to the bathroom, either, no matter how many days have passed in novel-time, yet we do not assume that toilets are on the way out in the homes of sci-fi writers and readers).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, two more things -</p>
<p>1. Many book heroes tend to be of the &#8220;action&#8221; sort, the rebel youth, the gutter urchin or the ever-popular illiterate unsuspecting-peasant-who-transition-to-hero (translate this trope to your respective genre as needed &#8211; I&#8217;m looking at you, young Mr. Skywalker) &#8211; not exactly bastions of literary devotion. For those who are more bastion-like, writers often go on about the hero possessing &#8220;walls of books&#8221; or &#8220;piles of books&#8221; or otherwise tipping a hat to the hero&#8217;s literary prowess during their scene building, and from that one infers that these books (of whatever provenance and/or genre the reader wishes to ascribe to them) are read, not bought by the pound for decorative purposes.</p>
<p>2. Writing about someone reading a book, unless concretely tied into the plot, doesn&#8217;t fall under the heading of &#8220;stuff that moves the story along,&#8221; and therefore is unlikely to be portrayed regardless of the likelihood that the hero reads simply because to do so would be boring and pointless (we don&#8217;t see much about them going to the bathroom, either, no matter how many days have passed in novel-time, yet we do not assume that toilets are on the way out in the homes of sci-fi writers and readers).<br />
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		<title>By: tommyspoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommyspoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way any genre of art can &quot;die&quot; is when there are no more producers or consumers of that genre.  I think SF has a fantastic future!  Why?  Because after a 20+ year hiatus, I have read the following SF and Fantasy books in the last year:

&lt;b&gt;Infoquake&lt;/b&gt; by some guy named Edelman...
&lt;strong&gt;Old Man&#039;s War&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;The Ghost Brigades&lt;/strong&gt; by some guy named Scalzi.
&lt;strong&gt;American Gods&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Ananzi Boys&lt;/strong&gt; by some guy named Gaiman.

And I&#039;m currently engrossed by &lt;strong&gt;Spindrift &lt;/strong&gt;by Allen Steele.  Once I&#039;m done with that, I&#039;m probably going to read his Coyote trilogy.  So I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to write off SF just yet.

But it would help matters if the sequel to &lt;strong&gt;Infoquake &lt;/strong&gt;gets finished sometime soon... just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way any genre of art can &#8220;die&#8221; is when there are no more producers or consumers of that genre.  I think SF has a fantastic future!  Why?  Because after a 20+ year hiatus, I have read the following SF and Fantasy books in the last year:</p>
<p><b>Infoquake</b> by some guy named Edelman&#8230;<br />
<strong>Old Man&#8217;s War</strong> and <strong>The Ghost Brigades</strong> by some guy named Scalzi.<br />
<strong>American Gods</strong> and <strong>Ananzi Boys</strong> by some guy named Gaiman.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m currently engrossed by <strong>Spindrift </strong>by Allen Steele.  Once I&#8217;m done with that, I&#8217;m probably going to read his Coyote trilogy.  So I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to write off SF just yet.</p>
<p>But it would help matters if the sequel to <strong>Infoquake </strong>gets finished sometime soon&#8230; just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Louis Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Louis Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Too much recursive thinking for their own good&quot;? Maybe, let me think about that a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Too much recursive thinking for their own good&#8221;? Maybe, let me think about that a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Soni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yeah, but how many fantasy heroes do you see stuffing their saddlebags with Paolini? And really, when&#039;s the last time a harried detective got distracted from the hunt by a lurking Grisham or a randomly appearing JD Robb?

The point of most books (and tv as well) is that people are too busy doing exciting and entertaining things to stop and read a book or watch tv. In fact, I once penned a senryu (humanistic haiku) about that very same paradigm:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Watching tv
Watching people
Not watching tv&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that is as it should be. Sounds like someone&#039;s doing too much recursive thinking for their own good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, but how many fantasy heroes do you see stuffing their saddlebags with Paolini? And really, when&#8217;s the last time a harried detective got distracted from the hunt by a lurking Grisham or a randomly appearing JD Robb?</p>
<p>The point of most books (and tv as well) is that people are too busy doing exciting and entertaining things to stop and read a book or watch tv. In fact, I once penned a senryu (humanistic haiku) about that very same paradigm:</p>
<blockquote><p>Watching tv<br />
Watching people<br />
Not watching tv</p></blockquote>
<p>And that is as it should be. Sounds like someone&#8217;s doing too much recursive thinking for their own good.</p>
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		<title>By: George Pedrosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Pedrosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, once we’ve got the technology safely mapped out as far as we can see, it&#039;s going to be extremely hard to make hard science fiction. Soft science fiction will be considered fantasy. Yeah, that may be the end of science fiction. I hope I won&#039;t be there to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, once we’ve got the technology safely mapped out as far as we can see, it&#8217;s going to be extremely hard to make hard science fiction. Soft science fiction will be considered fantasy. Yeah, that may be the end of science fiction. I hope I won&#8217;t be there to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it marks the end of scifi, but the rate information technology&#039;s developing is definitely a problem for science fiction now. Say you&#039;re writing a story in 2506, and your plot calls for one character to call another one to tell him something. The device he&#039;s calling on is completely irrelevant to the plot, but you want to be futuristic about it. And you are a high school teacher who regularly sees your kids coming in with postage-stamp sized devices that function as phones, walkie-talkies, cameras, text messaging devices, televisions, music players and video game machines.

So what is your character going to call with? A cell phone the size of an atomic nucleus? Telepathy? A superluminal ansible?

But then maybe certain things are going to just get to a point where they can&#039;t improve anymore, and in a thousand years people will be using the same thing. I mean, if a person from the time of Caesar came into my house, he&#039;d be surrounded by devices that were a mystery to him. But when he looked at my broom, he&#039;d say &quot;oh, yeah, I know what &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; for.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it marks the end of scifi, but the rate information technology&#8217;s developing is definitely a problem for science fiction now. Say you&#8217;re writing a story in 2506, and your plot calls for one character to call another one to tell him something. The device he&#8217;s calling on is completely irrelevant to the plot, but you want to be futuristic about it. And you are a high school teacher who regularly sees your kids coming in with postage-stamp sized devices that function as phones, walkie-talkies, cameras, text messaging devices, televisions, music players and video game machines.</p>
<p>So what is your character going to call with? A cell phone the size of an atomic nucleus? Telepathy? A superluminal ansible?</p>
<p>But then maybe certain things are going to just get to a point where they can&#8217;t improve anymore, and in a thousand years people will be using the same thing. I mean, if a person from the time of Caesar came into my house, he&#8217;d be surrounded by devices that were a mystery to him. But when he looked at my broom, he&#8217;d say &#8220;oh, yeah, I know what <i>that&#8217;s</i> for.&#8221;</p>
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