Comments on: Dave on Ruby on Rails http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/ Science Fiction Novelist, Blogger, Web Programmer Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:00:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: David Louis Edelman http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-792 David Louis Edelman Fri, 18 May 2007 18:10:50 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-792 Ming: No, it seems like the big hurdle for Vista was just unzipping that horrendously huge file for InstantRails. Once you've done that, you're 95% of the way there -- no install programs or anything. Of course, my understanding is that InstantRails on Vista is really only good for development... If you want to actually run production applications, you're better off installing the components one by one. Ming: No, it seems like the big hurdle for Vista was just unzipping that horrendously huge file for InstantRails. Once you’ve done that, you’re 95% of the way there — no install programs or anything.

Of course, my understanding is that InstantRails on Vista is really only good for development… If you want to actually run production applications, you’re better off installing the components one by one.

]]> By: Ming Jack Po http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-791 Ming Jack Po Fri, 18 May 2007 16:23:40 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-791 Hey David, did you have to do anything special to get instantrails to run on your vista box? Is there anything I should watch out for (horrendously slow speeds or something?) Thanks in advance! Hey David,

did you have to do anything special to get instantrails to run on your vista box? Is there anything I should watch out for (horrendously slow speeds or something?)

Thanks in advance!

]]> By: David Louis Edelman http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-794 David Louis Edelman Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:04:39 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-794 Thanks for that, Steve. I have in fact gotten InstantRails working on my work Vista machine, and I've got it running (with the Mephisto CMS software too!) on a hosted Linux account too. Right now it's Mephisto and Liquid that are kicking my ass, along with Mongrel Clusters and Pound. :-) Thanks for that, Steve. I have in fact gotten InstantRails working on my work Vista machine, and I’ve got it running (with the Mephisto CMS software too!) on a hosted Linux account too. Right now it’s Mephisto and Liquid that are kicking my ass, along with Mongrel Clusters and Pound. :-)

]]> By: Steve http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-793 Steve Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:37:26 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-793 I too had trouble with installation of InstantRails on Windows Vista, but I would usually tend to try a manual install of everything first anyway which I am in the process of doing right now. It has taken me less than 5 minutes to run the .exe install for ruby and "gem install rails" command to install rails. I have no idea where I go from here yet but I hope it is not as difficult as you seem to think. "Windows is for clueless users" is a bit harsh, I am installing on Vista purely for convenience..... I may later install on a virtual machine or a seperate box running linux maybe. Hoping that all the hype about RoR isn't just that but after watching the videos on the Rails website, I am instantly impressed. Will see where it takes me next! Your American football analogy is a good one, it is exactly how I feel.... after coding with PHP for a few years, the web programming world almost "commands" me to at least give RoR a try but admittedly it all seems alien to me. I too had trouble with installation of InstantRails on Windows Vista, but I would usually tend to try a manual install of everything first anyway which I am in the process of doing right now.

It has taken me less than 5 minutes to run the .exe install for ruby and “gem install rails” command to install rails.
I have no idea where I go from here yet but I hope it is not as difficult as you seem to think.
“Windows is for clueless users” is a bit harsh, I am installing on Vista purely for convenience….. I may later install on a virtual machine or a seperate box running linux maybe.

Hoping that all the hype about RoR isn’t just that but after watching the videos on the Rails website, I am instantly impressed.
Will see where it takes me next!

Your American football analogy is a good one, it is exactly how I feel…. after coding with PHP for a few years, the web programming world almost “commands” me to at least give RoR a try but admittedly it all seems alien to me.

]]> By: Brian http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-788 Brian Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:33:20 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-788 Hey - I can't keep all that stuff in my head either. Google is my friend. Hey - I can’t keep all that stuff in my head either. Google is my friend.

]]> By: David Louis Edelman http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-787 David Louis Edelman Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:27:21 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-787 <em>I’d like to report there were problems … but there weren’t. I ain’t gloating, just reporting.</em> Well, I will say in my defense that I'm not used to spending lots of time on the Linux command line. When I can't remember the exact switches I need to un-tar a file and I have to edit files in vi, it's gonna take me a little longer. Keep me posted on how you're liking Ruby on Rails. I’d like to report there were problems … but there weren’t. I ain’t gloating, just reporting.

Well, I will say in my defense that I’m not used to spending lots of time on the Linux command line. When I can’t remember the exact switches I need to un-tar a file and I have to edit files in vi, it’s gonna take me a little longer.

Keep me posted on how you’re liking Ruby on Rails.

]]> By: Brian http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-790 Brian Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:18:50 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-790 Side note - development is best done where you are comfortable. The tools you use for unix you can get for win32. But that's only the opinion of a system admin not a developer so take that for what it's worth. Side note - development is best done where you are comfortable. The tools you use for unix you can get for win32. But that’s only the opinion of a system admin not a developer so take that for what it’s worth.

]]> By: Brian http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-789 Brian Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:17:30 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-789 I gotta tell you - you inspired me to at least install Ruby on Rails. Will I mount the curve and actually DO anything with it? We'll see. But there are a number of things at the day job that would be enhanced by being able to fool around with stuff like this. Start to finish install time - oh about 90 minutes, excluding time spent downloading Xcode from Apple (my OS cd is at work). I'd like to report there were problems ... but there weren't. I ain't gloating, just reporting. briandunbar_natasha-2_~:ruby -v ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [universal-darwin8.0] I gotta tell you - you inspired me to at least install Ruby on Rails. Will I mount the curve and actually DO anything with it? We’ll see. But there are a number of things at the day job that would be enhanced by being able to fool around with stuff like this.

Start to finish install time - oh about 90 minutes, excluding time spent downloading Xcode from Apple (my OS cd is at work).

I’d like to report there were problems … but there weren’t. I ain’t gloating, just reporting.

briandunbar_natasha-2_~:ruby -v
ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [universal-darwin8.0]

]]> By: David Louis Edelman http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-786 David Louis Edelman Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:41:56 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-786 Tanel: Not sure I <em>totally</em> agree with your assessment of Windows... but we're doing RoR on a Linux machine for production purposes. CentOS, actually. I was just hoping to have the RoR installation on my WinVista machine so I could play around with it. Tanel: Not sure I totally agree with your assessment of Windows… but we’re doing RoR on a Linux machine for production purposes. CentOS, actually. I was just hoping to have the RoR installation on my WinVista machine so I could play around with it.

]]> By: tanel http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/technology/ruby-on-rails/#comment-785 tanel Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:12:12 +0000 http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/?p=203#comment-785 usually on windows machines we install rails like this: 1) download ruby one click installer and run it 2) from command line (I hope you what it is?) run gem install rails I have had no problems with rails installation anyway. A unix (linux, mac) machine is always preferred for development. You see, rails is for web applications. And web applications like to run on Unix, not Windows. Windows is for viruses, games, porn and generally for the clueless users, not for development. (ha ha ha) usually on windows machines we install rails like this:

1) download ruby one click installer and run it
2) from command line (I hope you what it is?) run

gem install rails

I have had no problems with rails installation anyway.

A unix (linux, mac) machine is always preferred for development. You see, rails is for web applications. And web applications like to run on Unix, not Windows. Windows is for viruses, games, porn and generally for the clueless users, not for development. (ha ha ha)

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