Comments on: Dave on Ruby on Rails

By: Mja

Mja — Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:53:07 +0000

@ Brian – LINUX/UNIX NGINGNGNX/Sucix/MyDIX is opposite to windows for …what? blowjobbing around in a commandprompt?. What webdeveloper on this side of 2000 would use anything that doesn’t have a GDI? Why are opensource people always so lazy they don’t throw out applications and systems that comes with a proper editor? ‘A webserver wan’t to run on linux?! What do you mean? A you mean if your use php (a wannabe .net and javas architecture, without proper possibility to make an n-tier app?) Most php developers are a product of bad coding habbits, examplified by junking everything into one page, becasue they think they compete with the old asp. Some of you OpenMouth developer needs to get out of your dark basement and find out that the world is a different place nowadays….
Besides that I’m so tired of this os war. I hate windows myself, but i have nothing bad to say about visual studio i ex, since its so well performing, and easy to use for developing, no matter i want to play textditor nerd or edit things more abstract. It’s like when apple people started to bitch over windoes user ‘uhuh Bill gates is just running you over and stealing your money – apple is freee!’ (yeah right why don’t we hear anything about that now? Because the apple seems to have turned into the most Christian mindcontrolling crap company on earth. Thank you Apple! – For letting us crack all your shit back in the c64/amiga days and disturbing your life.
Anyway – a coding language that needs to use a commandpropmt 24/7 should start bicthing against other langauges, OR claim that it’s userfriendly.

By: Michael Collins

Michael Collins — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:09:26 +0000

Hi David, I couldn’t agree more. Yet, I’ve been a programmer of all sorts for years, mostly embedded/real-time stuff – various assemblers, C, Ada, C++, C# as well as those I had to learn at uni. I find web-stuff counter intuitive somehow, and was hoping for some miracle with RoR, yet just getting something going is enough to put most people off. With instantRails, Vista won’t let MySQL start – am just about to try instantRails on XP on the Mac, but first it wants to install a load of windows updates…reboot, then one more update, start instantRails unzipping, then switch off IIS, then try the instantRails, which by now is unzipped. Advise firewall that Apache is a good thing and to let it be, then all seems to be working – but, hey, I did something and instantRails disappears…dbl-clicking on it does nothing…ah, well, reboot and it works again. Ok, now where’s the IDE? Is this thing for real in 2008? How does anybody get started in this confounding thing, please..? {:-|

By: David Louis Edelman

David Louis Edelman — Fri, 18 May 2007 18:10:50 +0000

Ming: No, it seems like the big hurdle for Vista was just unzipping that horrendously huge file for InstantRails. Once you’ve done that, you’re 95% of the way there — no install programs or anything.

Of course, my understanding is that InstantRails on Vista is really only good for development… If you want to actually run production applications, you’re better off installing the components one by one.

By: Ming Jack Po

Ming Jack Po — Fri, 18 May 2007 16:23:40 +0000

Hey David,

did you have to do anything special to get instantrails to run on your vista box? Is there anything I should watch out for (horrendously slow speeds or something?)

Thanks in advance!

By: David Louis Edelman

David Louis Edelman — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:04:39 +0000

Thanks for that, Steve. I have in fact gotten InstantRails working on my work Vista machine, and I’ve got it running (with the Mephisto CMS software too!) on a hosted Linux account too. Right now it’s Mephisto and Liquid that are kicking my ass, along with Mongrel Clusters and Pound.

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:37:26 +0000

I too had trouble with installation of InstantRails on Windows Vista, but I would usually tend to try a manual install of everything first anyway which I am in the process of doing right now.

It has taken me less than 5 minutes to run the .exe install for ruby and “gem install rails” command to install rails.
I have no idea where I go from here yet but I hope it is not as difficult as you seem to think.
“Windows is for clueless users” is a bit harsh, I am installing on Vista purely for convenience….. I may later install on a virtual machine or a seperate box running linux maybe.

Hoping that all the hype about RoR isn’t just that but after watching the videos on the Rails website, I am instantly impressed.
Will see where it takes me next!

Your American football analogy is a good one, it is exactly how I feel…. after coding with PHP for a few years, the web programming world almost “commands” me to at least give RoR a try but admittedly it all seems alien to me.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:33:20 +0000

Hey – I can’t keep all that stuff in my head either. Google is my friend.

By: David Louis Edelman

David Louis Edelman — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:27:21 +0000

I’d like to report there were problems … but there weren’t. I ain’t gloating, just reporting.

Well, I will say in my defense that I’m not used to spending lots of time on the Linux command line. When I can’t remember the exact switches I need to un-tar a file and I have to edit files in vi, it’s gonna take me a little longer.

Keep me posted on how you’re liking Ruby on Rails.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:18:50 +0000

Side note – development is best done where you are comfortable. The tools you use for unix you can get for win32. But that’s only the opinion of a system admin not a developer so take that for what it’s worth.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:17:30 +0000

I gotta tell you – you inspired me to at least install Ruby on Rails. Will I mount the curve and actually DO anything with it? We’ll see. But there are a number of things at the day job that would be enhanced by being able to fool around with stuff like this.

Start to finish install time – oh about 90 minutes, excluding time spent downloading Xcode from Apple (my OS cd is at work).

I’d like to report there were problems … but there weren’t. I ain’t gloating, just reporting.

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